We need some fresh poll...

Submitted by pani on Wed, 2005-03-23 14:38.

Who has any ideas what that poll could be about? What kind of issue close to our topic would be interesting to study opinions on?

Thanks
NZ

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Submitted by Jeff.Mowatt on Thu, 2005-03-31 08:59.

OK here's something to contemplate. Should Maidan explore other methods of fundraising? Here's an example that might be interesting:-

http://www.missionfish.org/About/about.jsp

Missionfish is the means by which nonprofits may register to receive direct donations from products sold on Ebay subject to 501(c)(3) status.

In essence this means that sellers who are supporters of Maidan may allocate a portion of the final payment or perhaps all of it for payment direct to Maidan.

So for example, one might convert unwanted household items to support for Maidan, perhaps even sell Ukrainian articles direct. There is for instance a flourishing cult of old Soviet manufactured cameras.

Well, how about this and any other ideas for generating funds for Maidan? There must be many out there in the West who could collaborate on such efforts.

Jeff Mowatt
London UK

Submitted by Terry Hallman on Sun, 2005-03-27 03:57.

Here's one suggestion:

"Should OSCE lower its evaluation criteria to satisfy Moscow's demands?"


According to a March 25 article from Eurasia Daily Monitor,
"Russian diplomacy is pointing a finger at the European Union and the OSCE, attempting to suggest that their goal of upholding democratic election standards in Kyrgyzstan is partly responsible for the outbreak of post-election unrest. Moscow wants international organizations to lower their evaluation criteria, ostensibly to avoid provoking violence, but in reality to comfort authoritarian regimes with whom Russia feels comfortable ."
(Emphasis added -- T.H.)


I'll post a copyright-safe version (opening passage here with link to full article on EDM's website) of the article under "articles" for readers to view prior to voting on the issue.

Terry
Kharkiv

Submitted by pani on Tue, 2005-03-29 02:15.

And I would be surprised to get anything but 99% "no" as an answer. Perhaps "is the sky blue?" would give more ambigous feedback :)

Maybe lets try something like "Had CIA sponsored Orange Revolution?" or something like this? About US influence I mean. Can you invent something related please?

Submitted by Terry Hallman on Tue, 2005-03-29 05:28.

The CIA question should also give a heavy "no" response. If any US government entity could somehow sponsor a democratic uprising in Ukraine or elsewhere, it should logically follow that we might have the same in the US.


To this moment, no one knows for sure who won the 2004 US elections due to hundreds of voting irregularities via voting machines versus how people actually voted. Diebold, one of the main machine suppliers, has gone so far as to threaten legal action for anyone looking into their machines and the software used to compile voting results. US had the same situation as Ukraine, but the US "vote" was obfuscated by secret software that almost no one undestands how to use -- and even fewer people can even examine.


According to international standards that the US, EU, and OSCE all accept, John Kerry won the US Presidency. Those same standards, applied in Ukraine, created the basis for the Orange Revolution on solid legal grounds that put Yushchenko in office. Those same standards were ignored in the US, with actual voting results hidden from view under threat of legal action. So, it makes little sense that CIA or any other US agency had or has the ability to sponsor democracy in Ukraine while no US entity is able to do the same within US borders -- and 'entities' within US borders actively prevent the same.


Maybe a poll asking if the US election was fair and honest? If so, then it lends credibility that maybe US was thus able to export or influence the same elsewhere.